Kurt Andersen is co-founder of Spy magazine and the author of several bestselling books, including Fantasyland: How America Went Haywire.  We discuss the fantasy industrial complex, new urbanism, and the draw of comforting explanations. We also discuss the relationships between science and fantasy, conspiratorial thinking, links between spirituality and politics, and the cultural legacy of Spy magazine. Related Links: Kurt Andersen's Website Fantasyland: How America Went Haywire Evil Geniuses: The Unmaking of America The Filter episode with Jesse Walker Spy Magazine Archive The Half-life of Facts and What if we're wrong