The Jordan Harbinger Show

240: Richard Clarke | Defending Ourselves in the Age of Cyber Threats

Aug 20, 2019
Richard Clarke, a former national security advisor and cybersecurity expert, dives into the constant cyber conflicts involving nations like Russia and China. He discusses the staggering $600 billion cyber crime industry and the potential for cyberattacks to cause real physical damage to infrastructure. Clarke raises the question of whether it's the government’s job or corporations' responsibility to secure against these threats. He also highlights the critical shortage of cybersecurity talent and the evolving challenges in safeguarding our technological landscape.
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Low-Grade Cyber Conflict

  • The US and Russia are engaged in low-grade cyber warfare, with attacks targeting intelligence agencies and infrastructure.
  • Prior to the 2018 US elections, US Cyber Command disrupted the Internet Research Agency in St. Petersburg.
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Cyberattacks on Infrastructure

  • The US reportedly has access to Russia's power grid, while Russia is present in US power systems.
  • The US has used cyberattacks against Iranian nuclear facilities and missile systems.
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Early Hacking Experiences

  • As a teenager, Jordan Harbinger and others disrupted MCI's telecom capabilities in Iraq through simple hacking techniques.
  • This highlights the vulnerability of systems in the past.
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