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So many people are interested in their family tree. What kind of lives did our ancestors lead and what do their stories say about us? Today's guest, Spring Washam, asks us to reckon with the people who have come before us in order to fully understand who we are and why we do the things we do.

Washam is a well-known teacher, author, and visionary leader based in Oakland, California. She is the author of A Fierce Heart: Finding Strength, Courage and Wisdom in Any Moment and her newest book, The Spirit of Harriet Tubman: Awakening from the Underground. Spring is considered a pioneer in bringing mindfulness-based meditation practices to diverse communities. She is one of the founding teachers at the East Bay Meditation Center, located in downtown Oakland, CA and has practiced and studied Buddhist philosophy in both the Theravada and Tibetan schools of Buddhism since 1999.

In this episode we talk about:

How Spring came to write about Harriet Tubman's life
Her work with plant medicine and the shamanic traditions
The dream and the "conversations" Spring had with Tubman
Why we are all so interested in ancestry
How we can deepen our relationship with our ancestors
Family Constellation Therapy as a modality for doing ancestry work
Spring's own family history
Why she is still processing the experience of writing her book about Harriet Tubman
What she means by the "inner underground railroad" and how it is alive today
And, how, in the inner underground railroad, freedom equates to nirvana

Content Warning: mentions of suicide

Full Shownotes: https://www.tenpercent.com/podcast-episode/spring-washam-556

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