John O'Sullivan, an author on financial markets, and Olivia Ackland, a reporter covering Congo, dive into the current global economic landscape. They discuss investors flocking to safe assets amid rising anxiety over trade tensions and recession fears. The conversation shifts to the remarkable resilience of Virunga National Park in the Democratic Republic of Congo, exploring its conservation efforts and the intertwined struggles of nature and local communities. They also touch on the fascinating complexities of language evolution, revealing why some languages are particularly challenging to learn.