Legal AF by MeidasTouch

Trump Blindsided as Criminal J6 Case Returns

Nov 22, 2025
Arizona Attorney General Kris Mayes, known for her prosecution of the 2020 fake elector matter, discusses her efforts to revive the state criminal case against 18 Trump allies. She emphasizes the ongoing threat to democracy posed by these actions, viewing them as part of an assault on the Constitution. Mayes explains the legal intricacies surrounding grand jury requirements, the implications of pardons, and her commitment to enforcing election laws. This episode sheds light on the pressing issues of election integrity and accountability.
Ask episode
AI Snips
Chapters
Transcript
Episode notes
INSIGHT

Federal Pardons Don't Erase State Liability

  • Federal pardons don't block state prosecutions for the same conduct in Arizona's fake-elector case.
  • Kris Mayes argues state authority remains separate and she will pursue charges despite presidential pardons.
ANECDOTE

How Alternate Electors Became Fake Electors

  • The fake-elector plan began as contingency 'alternate electors' prepared by lawyers like John Eastman.
  • It morphed into a scheme to submit false certificates to pressure Mike Pence and Congress to overturn the result.
INSIGHT

Dispute Over Grand Jury Materials

  • Arizona appellate court said prosecutors should have presented the Electoral Count Act to the grand jury.
  • Mayes' filing argues that a federal, noncriminal statute need not be presented to a state grand jury.
Get the Snipd Podcast app to discover more snips from this episode
Get the app