In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Brad Lomenick, who lead Catalyst for many years and is now a leadership consultant, speaker, founder of BLINC, and author of The Catalyst Leader and H3 Leadership. During their conversation, they discuss Brad’s leadership before he was the head of Catalyst and how to focus on significance over success, how to have healthy ambition, and how to have balance hustle and margin. QUOTES FROM EPISODE 13: “If I’m not helping others win and become who God created them to be, then I am not winning either.” “If the people closest to you aren’t getting the best of you, you aren’t winning as a leader.” “God needs to work on us in the private before we can lead in the public.” “If I’m winning, but my team isn’t, none of us were winning.” “There’s a big difference between connectors and networkers.” “Ambition is a ruthless pursuit of helping other people win.” “Twenty-somethings are known for their hustle.” “Success is about you, but significance is about others.” “The ability to influence people from anywhere in the organization has never been more available to us.” “Question-asking and curiosity are vital skills for leaders.” “Be honest, be transparent, be vulnerable, and be honest.” RESOURCES MENTIONED When by Daniel Pink H3 Leadership by Brad Lomenick The 21 Irrefutable Laws of Leadership by John Maxwell The Next Generation Leader by Andy Stanley Entre Leadership by Dave Ramsey The Power of Moments by Chip and Dan Heath Deep Work by Cal Newport This Episode's Sponsor: With Ministry Grid’s library of over 3,500 training videos and 800 courses, it's now simpler than ever to train every volunteer and leader in your church. For the month of August, you can get unlimited access to Ministry Grid for YOUR ENTIRE CHURCH for just $399 a year. If you want to take advantage of this incredible deal, just go to ministrygrid.com/podcast.