Ep 13 - Set the Mood

Nov 5, 2025

Craig Hewitt, founder of Castos and creator of the "100 Days of AI" project, joins Chris Gimmer, co-founder of Fathom Analytics and founder of Good Metrics. They debate whether OpenAI should go public at a trillion-dollar valuation and discuss the implications of AI solutions versus selling tangible business outcomes. Craig shares why he believes ChatGPT is the worst AI tool for certain tasks. They also explore infrastructure challenges in product launches and ponder the timeline for household robots becoming a reality.

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INSIGHT

Music Shapes Work Mindset

Music and environment shape work mindset differently for each person and can be used deliberately to change focus or ambition.
Jordan and Chris use energetic hip-hop for motivation while Craig prefers silence or focused background tracks for deep work.

ADVICE

Try A Part-Time Office For Focus

Try a hybrid routine: go to an office a few days a week to separate work and home time and gain focus.
Value the time savings: paying for an office can return hours of productive work each month.

INSIGHT

IPO Is About Capital And Supply Control

OpenAI going public would primarily be a massive fundraising and liquidity event, not immediate profitability.
The strategic win may be owning chip and data-center supply rather than product alone.

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Are you selling AI solutions or business outcomes? (One makes money, one doesn't.)

Jordan Gal hosts Craig Hewitt, founder of Castos and an AI content creator deep into his "100 Days of AI" project, alongside Chris Gimmer, co-founder of Fathom Analytics who just launched Good Metrics, a privacy-first analytics platform. Should OpenAI go public at a trillion dollars? The trio debates whether we're witnessing a bubble or the beginning of something bigger. Craig reveals why ChatGPT is "the worst AI tool" for his work—blasphemy or insight? Chris shares the painful decision to delay his launch for months after infrastructure issues. They tackle working from home versus office space, the coming wave of household robots, and why selling AI solutions directly might be the wrong approach. When will you have a robot in your house?

In This Episode:

(00:00) Music, Mood, and Getting Into Work Mode

(06:05) The Work From Home Versus Office Debate

(12:32) OpenAI Going Public at a Trillion Dollars

(20:09) Craig's 100 Days of AI and Why ChatGPT Isn't the Best

(26:29) Chris Launches Good Metrics After Infrastructure Delays

(34:56) When Will You Have a Robot in Your House?

(35:33) Selling AI Solutions Versus Selling Business Outcomes

(42:54) Vibe Running Your Company and Analytics Reality

(48:10) Multi-Channel Attribution and Why Data Is Always Fuzzy

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About the Show

Jordan Gal, founder and CEO of Rosie AI, hosts the Offsite Podcast where he teams up with rotating entrepreneur friends to explore what's happening in their work and beyond. After successfully building and selling CartHook, Jordan now leads a VC-backed company while sharing candid insights about the realities of startup life. The show combines real-time business updates with deeper conversations about founder psychology, growth strategies, and the personal side of entrepreneurship that rarely gets discussed publicly.

Resources:
Craig Hewitt - Twitter/X: https://x.com/TheCraigHewitt
Chris Gimmer - Twitter/X: https://x.com/cgimmer
Rosie AI: https://heyrosie.com/