The Social-Engineer Podcast Ep. 142 – You Can Be Right And Still Be Wrong With Brian Phillips
In this episode of the SECurity Awareness Series of the SEPodcast, Chris Hadnagy and Ryan MacDougall are joined by Brian Phillips who is responsible for information security at Macy’s. Listen as they discuss how to: build an information security organization, hire the right people, and get buy-in from executives. March 15, 2021
00:09 – Intro
01:54 – Introduction to Brian Phillips
02:44 – Security in a retail environment and impacts from the pandemic
07:25 - How to build an information security organization from the ground up
10:14 – Changing an organization's mindset for better security
14:20 – The most desirable quality in a team member, and how to recognize it in an interview
18:21 – How to nurture an outsider into a security professional
22:48 - How to align corporate security initiatives with business goals
Never Split the Difference: Negotiating As If Your Life Depended On It
26:38 – The importance of buy-in from the C-level down, and how to get it.
38:13 – Key takeaways that corporations should start doing now
40:17 – Brian’s most respected colleagues
42:14 – Brian's book recommendations
Never Split the Difference: Negotiating As If Your Life Depended On It
Human Hacking: Win Friends, Influence People, and Leave Them Better Off for Having Met You
How to Win Friends & Influence People
Robin Dreke's Books: Sizing People Up: A Veteran FBI Agent's User Manual for Behavior Prediction
It's Not All About Me: The Top Ten Techniques for Building Quick Rapport with Anyone
The Code of Trust: An American Counterintelligence Expert's Five Rules to Lead and Succeed
Joe Navarro’s Books:
Be Exceptional: Master the Five Traits That Set Extraordinary People Apart
The Dictionary of Body Language: A Field Guide to Human Behavior
What Every Body Is Saying: An Ex-FBI Agent's Guide to Speed-Reading People
Leaders Eat Last: Why Some Teams Pull Together and Others Don't
44:03 – Conclusion