Jonathan answers some of my questions about The traditional schools, Jordan Peterson and God, makes a critique of modern art, spiritual materialism, and woke; he talks about the marginalia of medieval art, the meaning of Icons, Covid, the state of the world, and the city of God, and so much more. A man of great clarity and ability to articulate the hidden meaning of things.

Here is his bio:

https://thesymbolicworld.com/

Jonathan Pageau is a professional artist, writer and public speaker, giving workshops and conferences all around North America. He teaches carving, speaks on art, but mostly explores symbolic structures that underlie our experience of the world.

Through his YouTube channel and podcast, The Symbolic World, he also furthers the conversation on symbolism, meaning and patterns in everything from movies, to icons, to social trends.

Articles on the The Symbolic World are contributed by several writers engaged with Jonathan in the exploration of Symbolism across all fields.

To see the Jonathan’s art, please visit his carving website, his Patreon Art page or follow him on social media.

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Intro music: Beautiful Machines, by Andrew Sweeny

Jonathan Pageau: Living Symbol and Liturgy