Steve Klabnik, an expert in semantic versioning and Rust programming, joins the discussion diving into the complexities of versioning in software. The conversation highlights the limitations of Semantic Versioning and its communication challenges between developers and users. They also humorously touch upon versioning in CSS and HTTP evolution. Klabnik unpacks Postel's Law's implications and debates the intricacies of API versioning. On a lighter note, the panel cheekily argues over pineapple on pizza, showcasing their fun side amidst technical chatter.
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Experts Reflect on Version Meaning
Steve Klabnik, editor of the SemVer spec, discusses how versions are identifiers tied to sharing work progress.
Jamie and others reflect on how versioning is a way to communicate changes deliberately in software.
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Versioning Is Communication
Versioning is fundamentally about communication to share the identity and changes of software between people and tools.
It's not just numbering; it's about encoding semantics and context for better understanding.
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SemVer Is For Tools, Not Apps
Semantic Versioning (SemVer) primarily targets libraries for machine and tool communication, not user-facing applications.
Many users misunderstand SemVer semantics because they skip defining clear API boundaries and contract meaning.
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Versioning! It's a topic that we all deal with on a daily basis, and yet it's a topic that many of us dread. Our ecosystems love semantic versioning, but many of us find it lacking for many of our use cases. In this episode, Kris and Matt are joined once again by Jamie and Steve to talk about versioning. The panel discusses what versioning is, when to use Semantic Versioning, whether identifiers and versions are the same thing, and so much more.
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