Brooke Matejka joins us to discuss the work of theologian Marcella Althaus-Reid, including her call for a materialist theology, critiques of Liberation Theology and liberal feminist theology, and the concept of indecent theology. They explore the intersection of theology, sexuality, and politics, as well as the importance of theology in addressing the material struggles of oppressed people. The chapter also touches on the real and pornographic in theology, the concept of indecent theology, and the importance of embracing failure and honesty in relationships and theology.
Marcella Althaus-Reid criticizes liberation theology for making patriarchal deals with colonizers and remaining idealistic in sexual and gender politics.
All theology is sexual theology, with a distinction between materialist sexual theology and idealistic theology's sexuality.
Althaus-Reid argues for the importance of materialist theology, recognizing the pain and challenging oppressive systems, rather than engaging in shallow symbolic rescuing.
Deep dives
Altos Reed's Critique of Liberation Theology
Marcel Altos Reed, an indigenous Argentinian theologian, is highly critical of liberation theology, arguing that it has made patriarchal deals with colonizers and remains idealistic in its sexual and gender politics. She believes that most feminist theologies have conducted re-readings of the Bible without doing real material analysis. Altos Reed believes that liberation theologians have focused on becoming represented in a colonizing system, which leads to the fetishization of marginalized experiences rather than confronting the realities of oppression and suffering. She challenges the concept of solidarity, arguing that it often becomes theological voyeurism without addressing the material conditions and true pain behind it.
The Sexual Theology of Altos Reed
Altos Reed argues that all theology is sexual theology, as it obsessively focuses on the ordering of bodies, family, sexuality, and sexual roles. She distinguishes between sexual theology and theology's sexuality, asserting that the former is materialist, starting from people's actions and sexual experiences, while the latter remains idealistic, focusing on idealized notions of gendered social ordering. Altos Reed emphasizes the need for a materialist approach to theology, recognizing the importance of bodies and desires in shaping our understanding of the divine. She critiques the patriarchal and heteronormative ideologies perpetuated by traditional sexual metaphors in theology and challenges the idealizing and puritanical tendencies within feminist theologies. Altos Reed argues for a theology that courageously engages with sex, gender, and sexuality, acknowledging the ways in which theology can oppress and kill women.
Materialist Theology and Critique of Idealism
Altos Reed distinguishes between three types of theology: materialist theology, literalist theology, and idealist theology. Literalist theology involves a simplistic, uncritical reading of religious texts. Idealist theology relies on abstract, disconnected ideals and fails to engage with the concrete realities of oppression and suffering. Materialist theology, the approach Altos Reed advocates, takes into account the material conditions and real-life experiences of individuals, recognizing their pain and challenging oppressive systems. Altos Reed critiques US American and European theologians for engaging in theological voyeurism, focusing on symbolic representations of marginalized bodies without truly confronting their suffering. She argues that true materialist theology involves an analysis of power dynamics and the disruption of oppressive systems, rather than engaging in shallow discourse and symbolic rescuing.
Understanding Materialist Theology
Materialist theology, according to the podcast, is a theology that recognizes the importance of understanding concrete conditions and relations. It goes beyond simply focusing on the body or embodiment, which is a popular trend in liberal postmodern theology. Instead, materialist theology adopts a historical materialist lens, understanding that the motive of human history is the class struggle, which gives rise to other forms of oppressive relations. By analyzing the general and the particular, materialist theology aims to grasp the realities of the world and provide insights into what is truly happening and why.
The Concepts of the Real and the Pornographic
The podcast discusses theologian Marcella Althaus-Reid's concepts of the real and the pornographic. The 'real' refers to the call for theology to focus on reality rather than ideology. Althaus-Reid argues that the dominant construct of reality in theology is a colonizing ideology, and it is important to deconstruct this construction and recognize what is truly real. The 'pornographic,' on the other hand, refers to a method that produces heavily conceptualized bodies or immobile images in theology. This method involves abstracting identities and using them to make theological points, while disregarding the specific realities and struggles of marginalized groups. Althaus-Reid emphasizes the necessity of indecent theology, which involves confronting our twisted categories and engaging in a dialogical process that reflects the real and challenges oppressive systems.
Brooke Matejka joins us to discuss the work and thought of theologian Marcella Althaus-Reid. We talk about how all theology is sexual theology, Althaus-Reid's critiques of Liberation Theology and liberal feminist theology, her call for a materialist theology, and what it might mean for Christians to have an indecent theology.