Biden Agrees to Debate Trump, Cohen Crushed in Cross, and Possible "Baby Reindeer" Lawsuit, with Marcia Clark and Mark Geragos | Ep. 792
May 15, 2024
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Attorneys Marcia Clark and Mark Geragos discuss Trump's potential guilt, Cohen's credibility issues, Baby Reindeer lawsuit possibilities. They cover topics like possible jail time for Trump, ankle monitor use, and the impact of public hatred on a jury. The conversation also touches on the Netflix series portrayal and potential lawsuit, along with insights into upcoming debates and trial logistics.
President Biden agrees to debates with Trump, first expected in June on CNN without an audience.
Michael Cohen's credibility issues highlighted during fiery cross-examination by Trump's defense team.
Real-life woman portrayed in Netflix series 'Baby Reindeer' may have a case against Netflix and show creator.
Deep dives
Cohen's Testimony on Trump's Knowledge of Reimbursement Scheme
Michael Cohen testified that Donald Trump knew the reimbursement records would disguise payments to Cohen for the Stormy Daniels deal as legal expenses, attributing it to Trump's micromanagement style. Testimony and corroborating evidence suggest Trump was aware of the reimbursement process disguising payments.
Witness Testimony Indicating Trump's Approval and Involvement
Witnesses Hope Hicks and Keith Davidson's testimonies align with Cohen's account, emphasizing Trump's approval and involvement in orchestrating payments to women. Hope Hicks emphasized Trump's desire for credit in such transactions, indicating his knowledge and consent in the process.
AMI Payment Knowledge and Trump's Approval
Trump's awareness of payments made by AMI and Michael Cohen to silence women like Karen McDougal was highlighted, showcasing a pattern of Trump's involvement in such payoffs. Cohen's testimony on Trump's response to AMI's hush payment to a doorman further corroborates Trump's approval of silencing efforts.
Trump's Reaction to Payoff Disclosures
Cohen's testimony on informing Trump about AMI's doorman payoff and Trump's positive reaction of 'good' reveals Trump's endorsement of silencing individuals with hush money. Cohen's account showcases how Trump was briefed on such payments and his approval of these tactics.
Allegations of False Invoices and Repayment of Debt
The podcast episode delves into the allegations surrounding payments made to Michael Cohen by the Trump organization. The District Attorney theorizes that these payments were not for legal expenses as documented but rather repayment of a debt to Cohen. Despite records indicating legal expenses, Cohen asserts that the payments were related to the Stormy Daniels affair and similar expenses, refuting any ongoing legal services in 2017.
Analysis of Stalking Case and Legal Implications
The episode transitions to a dramatic recounting of a stalking case between Richard Gadd and Fiona Harvey, examined in the Netflix series 'Baby Reindeer'. It explores the obsessive behaviors of the stalker towards Gadd, leading to legal repercussions. The debate revolves around the portrayal of the events as a 'true story' by Netflix and potential legal repercussions for defamation or misrepresentation. The discussion delves into the complexities of determining the legality of actions portrayed and the duty of care by the producers in presenting real-life stories.
Megyn Kelly begins the show by detailing the breaking news that President Joe Biden has finally agreed to two debates with former President Donald Trump, the shocking news that the first one is expected in June on CNN without any audience, and more. Then attorneys Marcia Clark and Mark Geragos join to discuss the logistics of what might happen if Trump is found guilty, the possibility of actual jail time awaiting sentencing or a suspended jail sentence, whether he might have to wear an ankle monitor, the details of the fiery Michael Cohen’s cross-examination by Trump's defense team, his glaring credibility issues, whether his obvious and public hatred of Trump will affect how the jury sees him, what happens next in the Trump trial, the real life woman portrayed in the Netflix series “Baby Reindeer," whether she has a case against Netflix and the show creator, her viral interview with Piers Morgan and whether she'll sue him now, and more.