Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal

Lue Elizondo Λ Sean Cahill on UFOs, Consciousness, Time, the Difficulty Talking about the Phenomenon

Mar 13, 2022

Lue Elizondo, a former US Army counterintelligence agent and director of the AATIP program, and Sean Cahill, a US Navy veteran and co-founder of Skyfort.org, dive deep into the world of UFOs and consciousness. They explore the challenges of discussing UAPs, the relationship between unidentified phenomena and historical crises, and the ethics of secrecy. The pair also touch on the intersections of science and the paranormal, advocating for critical thinking and transparency in understanding these mysterious issues.

03:00:25

Creator website

Episode guests

Sean Cahill

Lue Elizondo

AI Chapters

Episode notes

Intro

2min

Exploring Consciousness and UFOs

7min

The Enigma of UAPs and Cataclysms

18min

Unveiling UAP Secrets

21min

Exploring Educational Paths to Understand UAPs

5min

Navigating the Unknown: Perspectives on UFOs and Human Perception

12min

Revolutionizing Shaving with Aerospace Engineering

2min

Unveiling Perception and UAPs

26min

Exploring Quiddity and UFO Discourse

26min

10.

The Many Names of Area 51 and Their Implications

4min

11.

Unraveling UAP Mysteries

12min

12.

Investigating the Mysteries of the Holloman Incident

2min

13.

Data Collection and Accountability in Ufology

12min

14.

Navigating Public Vulnerability

27min

15.

Engaging Audience Reflections on UFO Discussions

4min

YouTube link: https://youtu.be/9g5e9UzEDkw

Lue Elizondo and Sean Cahill discuss UFOs and reality.

Sponsors:

-Ground News: https://ground.news/toe

-Urgent Care: https://urgentcare.com/

-That UFO Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast

-Algo: https://www.algo.com/ / https://www.youtube.com/c/AlgoPodcast

Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal

Crypto: https://tinyurl.com/cryptoTOE

PayPal: https://tinyurl.com/paypalTOE

Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt

Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs

iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/better-left-unsaid-with-curt-jaimungal/id1521758802

Pandora: https://pdora.co/33b9lfP

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e

Subreddit r/TheoriesOfEverything: https://reddit.com/r/theoriesofeverything

Merch: https://tinyurl.com/TOEmerch

LINKS MENTIONED:

-Jesse Michels' YouTube (American Alchemy): https://www.youtube.com/c/JesseMichels

-Lue Elizondo Part 1: https://youtu.be/aAmFlLfsZKM

-Lue Elizondo Part 2: https://youtu.be/wULw64ZL1Bg

-Nuremberg UFO Incident: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1561_celestial_phenomenon_over_Nuremberg

-Karl Friston (the most important TOE podcast): https://youtu.be/SWtFU1Lit3M

-UFO Joe Murgia: https://www.youtube.com/c/ufojoe1

-Jacob Lizzio's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/SignalsMusicStudio

-Richard Dolan on TOE: https://youtu.be/cDZEb-GKAJ4

-Nicholas Gisin on TOE: https://youtu.be/jcHzgy0I6gk

-Carlo Rovelli on TOE: https://youtu.be/r_fUPbBNmBw

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00:00 Introduction

00:05:22 Element 115

00:08:25 Any evidence that UFOs will intervene to stop nuclear iniquities?

00:10:11 Imminent cataclysm?

00:14:11 Our future selves and time travel

00:19:48 "Thick time" and Nicolas Gisin / The present moment

00:26:53 Why the secrecy? Is it because of the private sector or government?

00:30:23 What keeps more from coming forward is dishonor / stigma

00:37:03 "What should I do?"

00:45:29 What does Lue tell his children about the phenomenon?

00:47:52 [Matriiac] What field or degree would you choose to better understand UFOs?

00:55:36 [Jesse Michels] Parapsychology

01:02:46 [Bill Yates] Aphantasia and interacting with the phenomenon

01:08:44 The Karl Friston episode is the most important TOE episode

01:09:28 [Jacob Lizzio] How would you recover a UFO craft?

01:15:54 [Euphoric_Gur_4674] Different types of UAP interacting

01:21:10 [Miles Koliarievin @koliarievin] Attempts to make contact with UAP

01:26:53 Psychedelics and communicating with the phenomenon

01:30:25 Distinctions / quiddities / semantics matter

01:30:48 [Chris Pass] Moon shows evidence that we were not the first intelligent life

01:34:25 [Webstar Rises] Do we have a direct DNA lineage with the Others?

01:34:49 [Adam X] "Crap is going to hit the fan soon..." Elaborate?

01:40:03 The frustration about the topic

01:51:24 [Ra Shu] How did the gov't "attract" UFOs?

01:52:50 [NICK D] Has UAP technology advanced?

01:53:44 [Blaine Toderian] Missing time

01:55:51 George Knapp revealed new names for Area 51

01:59:54 [Cyprian Cyganek] UAP incidents that stood out to you.

02:04:13 [Casey Price] Photographs to support that USOs exist (unidentified submerged objects)

02:09:07 [Bryan] Importance of sound to the advanced physics theorized for UAP

02:10:21 [Rebeca Schwardt] Civilian data collection efforts

02:11:49 [Joe Murgia] Holloman base

02:13:59 [Andy McGrillen] How can we get more involved with data collection?

02:17:52 (Continued) The frustration about the topic

02:28:49 On loving your enemy, extending a hand despite hate, and Curt's journey in this topic

02:53:24 Curt answers some audience questions after Lue / Sean leave

* * *

Just wrapped (April 2021) a documentary called Better Left Unsaid http://betterleftunsaidfilm.com on the topic of "when does the left go too far?" Visit that site if you'd like to watch it.ch it.

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Remember Everything You Learn from Podcasts

Save insights instantly, chat with episodes, and build lasting knowledge - all powered by AI.

Get the app