Miriam Herschlag, Allison Kaplan Sommer and Noah Efron discuss two topics of incomparable importance and end with an anecdote about something in Israel that made them smile this week.

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—Phase III—

The last phase of the Israel-Hamas war is starting. Why don’t we feel relieved?

—South Africa v. Israel—

Eighty years after the Holocaust ended, Israel is on trial for genocide.

—How Do You Podcast a War?—

For our most unreasonably generous Patreon supporters, in our extra-special, special extra discussion: How do you podcast this war? (With Jen Richler, genius producer “Can We Talk?”)

All that and the music of Idan Amedi, who was injured badly this week as an IDF reservist in Gaza.

The “South Africa v. Israel” Edition