Changelog Interviews The era of the Small Giant
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Jan 22, 2026 
Damien Tanner, founder of Pusher and now LayerCode, explores the transformative landscape of software development. He argues that the traditional SaaS model is dying, with voice AI agents taking center stage. Damien highlights the inefficiencies of code review processes and predicts a shift toward agent-driven workflows. He discusses building real-time voice AI infrastructures and how small teams can achieve big dreams. Tune in to gain insights on trusting AI models and the exciting potential for non-technical users to become builders.
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Agents Make Many UIs Obsolete
- Damien argues SaaS is built for humans and slow UIs, so agents remove the need for many human-facing SaaS products.
- If AI performs the work, the traditional SaaS product and UI become unnecessary.
Built A CRM By Talking To An Agent
- Damien built a CRM by voice-prompting Claude Code and then canceled his old CRM because the generated one worked well enough.
- He then let the agent operate on the database and discarded the UI, demonstrating agent-first workflows.
Rethink Code Review For Agent-Generated Code
- Re-evaluate code review and developer processes when agents write new projects from scratch.
- Use stricter controls where required but relax processes for greenfield agent-generated code to move faster.