Wellness + Wisdom Podcast Methylene Blue: The Most Misunderstood Molecule in Medicine? (Dr. John Lieurance)
Aug 26, 2025
Dr. John Lieurance, a Naturopath and founder of MitoZen, unveils the fascinating world of methylene blue, initially a malaria treatment, now seen as a potential cure for Alzheimer's and cancer. He discusses its role in enhancing cellular energy and its emotional impacts on mental clarity and trauma responses. The conversation dives into how this misunderstood molecule interacts with light therapy, promotes neuroplasticity, and the importance of alternative treatments in modern medicine, along with personal stories of resilience and holistic health.
01:23:19
Methylene Blue As A Light Accelerator
- Methylene blue concentrates in mitochondria and acts like a photon sponge to boost cellular energy.
- John Lieurance calls it a "light accelerator" that amplifies red/near-infrared photobiomodulation effects.
How Methylene Blue Was Discovered
- Paul Ehrlich discovered methylene blue's antiparasitic effect while staining slides and saw malaria parasites die.
- Ehrlich then explored its cognitive benefits because brain tissue stained intensely blue from high mitochondrial content.
Plaques Are An Effect, Not Always The Cause
- Beta‑amyloid and other misfolded proteins are often protective immune responses, not the root problem.
- Lieurance argues clearing plaques without addressing infection/toxins treats effects not causes.
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Intro
00:00 • 2min
Methylene Blue: History and Controversy
01:59 • 12min
Exploring the Therapeutic Benefits of Methylene Blue
14:00 • 2min
The Blue Energy Connection
16:28 • 7min
Rewiring the Limbic System: Emotional Impact and Methylene Blue
23:27 • 4min
Unlocking Methylene Blue: Health Insights and Innovations
27:00 • 16min
Exploring MUSE Cells and Innovative Health Solutions
42:33 • 13min
Exploring the Therapeutic Benefits of Methylene Blue for Eye Health
55:31 • 2min
Empowering Wellness Through Natural Choices
57:15 • 4min
Beyond the Blue: Methylene Myths and Healing Journeys
01:01:01 • 10min
Navigating Choices: The Emotional Journey of Amputation and Recovery
01:10:40 • 3min
Healing Through Grief
01:13:30 • 5min
Breaking Free from Societal Pressures: Embracing Authenticity and Self-Care
01:18:23 • 2min
Embracing Self-Love and Intentionality
01:20:02 • 3min
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Methylene Blue: Magic Bullet
The Ultimate Mitochondrial Support
John A. Lieurance, ND, DC, DABCN
In 'Methylene Blue: Magic Bullet', Dr. John A. Lieurance explores the benefits and applications of methylene blue, focusing on its role in enhancing mitochondrial health.
The book delves into the scientific and practical aspects of using methylene blue as a pro-oxidant and antioxidant, highlighting its potential in improving overall health and vitality.
Is methylene blue the missing link for healing “incurable” diseases?
Josh Trent welcomes Dr. John Lieurance, Naturopath + Founder of MitoZen, to the Wellness + Wisdom Podcast, episode 766, to reveal a roadmap for reclaiming health when modern medicine says there’s no hope, and how methylene blue can reawaken your body’s light, strengthen your brain, and even shift trauma responses at the cellular level.
Enjoy 10% Off MitoZenThe main active component in Lumetol Blue is pharmaceutical-grade Methylene Blue, which acts as a catalyst for enhanced cellular energy production.
Photo-biomodulation is the term used when light therapy is used to promote positive changes in cellular and biological function. Light therapy comes in a variety of therapeutics, such as laser, infrared lamps, red light therapy, and even just the positive effects the sunlight gives our bodies.
Various substances have what’s called “Photo-Activated” properties, and many of these are being looked at as therapeutics. Lumetol Blue™ Bars contain the best photoactive nutrients available for strong absorption through the stomach.
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In This Episode, Dr. John Lieurance Uncovers: [01:20] Can Methylene Blue Heal "Incurable" Diseases?- Why methylene blue was originally used in medicine to cure malaria.
- How methylene blue can cure cancer and Alzheimer's.
- Why Big Pharma didn't manage to create a cure for Alzheimer's.
Resources:
- Dr. John Lieurance
- MitoZen - 10% off with the code WELLNESSFORCE
- Melatonin: Miracle Molecule by Dr. John Lieurance
- Chase Hughes on The Joe Rogan Experience
- Paul Ehrlich
- How Rockefeller used homeopathy in his personal practice.
- Why the Flexner report influenced the evolution of medicine.
- How most pharmaceuticals are based on petroleum.
- Why chiropractors didn't move into the pharmaceutical-based healing.
- How methylene blue turns on the brain.
- How red light therapy combined with methylene blue IV helped Covid patients.
Resources:
[16:50] Get Light into Your Cells- Why methylene blue is blue.
- How we can receive photons through methylene blue.
- Why we can take methylene blue without sunlight or red light therapy.
Resources:
[19:25] How to Strengthen The Blue Spot- The role of the locus coeruleus (blue spot).
- How the hormone norepinephrine helps us navigate stress.
- Why methylene blue strengthens the blue spot.
- How we can alter PTSD and phobias using methylene blue.
Resources:
[24:50] Is Methylene Blue Toxic?- How methylene blue is made from petroleum but it's not toxic.
- Why methylene blue elevates mood and mitochondrial capacity.
- Who can benefit from taking methylene blue.
- How 86% of methylene blue converts to white color.
Resources:
[32:00] New Biohacking Protocol- Why there are no potential side effect to methylene blue.
- The benefits of combining red light therapy, oxygen, and methylene blue.
- Why most older men have a prostate issue and how it can be prevented and treated.
Resources:
[38:25] Muse Stem Cells: A Miracle in Medicine?- Why most doctors don't know about Next Generation Sequences.
- How Muse stem cells can support multigenerational stress endurance.
- Why stem cells can rebuild cartilage.
- How Muse stem cells eradicate cancer cells.
Resources:
[44:10] Melatonin for Healing Viral Infections- How Covid was another Flexner moment.
- Why melatonin can solve viral infections.
- How Trump was using melatonin to heal from Covid.
- Why Dr. John had to censor his website.
Resources:
[49:55] Ivermectin for Covid Detoxification- How ivermectin detoxes the body after Covid or the vaccine.
- Why spike protein can trigger other diseases.
- How ivermectin is very effective when used inter-nasally.
- Why Dr. John uses ivermectin in his products.
- The benefits of combining breathwork with the MitoZen spray.
- How gold, silver, and methylene blue in Blue Eyes drops can heal eye infections within a day.
- Dr. John's wellness practice using sun gazing, breathwork, and MitoZen products.
- How MitoZen products have helped people with mold problems.
- Why synthetic doesn't always mean toxic.
- How we have more stressors than ever before.
- Why we need more patience with our bodies.
- How even alternative medicine practitioners may not focus on the root cause and only treat the symptoms.
- Why a traumatic injury during a hurricane caused him to lose his leg.
- How he could see the blessing in the possibility of losing everything.
- Why he found a sense of peace within the chaos.
- How Dr. John finally chose to amputate his leg after 7 months of chronic pain.
Resources:
- Dolphin Tale (2011)
- 744 Debra Silverman | Your Pain Has a Pattern… and Astrology Reveals It All (This Isn’t Random)
- What Dr. John received through losing his leg.
- How he allowed himself to feel and express the pain of his loss.
- Why there's joy on the other side of pain.
- How mental well-being is driven by unconscious thought energies.
- The purpose of the limbic system.
- How Dr. John has been working on removing his fear of death.
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- MitoZen - 10% off with the code WELLNESSFORCE
- Melatonin: Miracle Molecule by Dr. John Lieurance
- Chase Hughes on The Joe Rogan Experience
- Paul Ehrlich
- The Flexner Report
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- The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk
- Methylene Blue: Magic Bullet by Dr. John Lieurance
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- Ben Greenfield
- Dolphin Tale (2011)
- 744 Debra Silverman | Your Pain Has a Pattern… and Astrology Reveals It All (This Isn’t Random)
"Methylene blue has been shown to be neuroprotective. If you had a stroke and you're currently taking methylene blue, you wouldn't have much damage. If you had a heart attack while you're taking methylene blue, you're very much protected." — Dr. John Lieurance
"Our healthcare model, because it's been so biased with the money from Big Pharma, it's gotten out of control. And this does not limit itself to pharmaceuticals. You can get functional medicine doctors that do the same thing with natural solutions, but just treating symptoms and not actually getting down to the root cause." — Dr. John Lieurance
"Through methylene blue, we can feed photons into that system and actually get a boost in vitality and energy at a cellular level. It acts like a sponge to pull the photons into the mitochondria." — Dr. John Lieurance
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Naturopath and Chiropractic Neurologist, Dr. John Lieurance, has been in private practice for over 27 Years.
Currently, with Advanced Rejuvenation, a Multi-Disciplinary Clinic, with a focus on Alternative and Regenerative Medicine, Naturopathic Medicine, Chiropractic Functional Neurology, Functional Cranial Release (FCR), Lumomed, Lyme Disease, Mold Illness, and many other Neurological Conditions.
His treatments have been proven very successful in treating many chronic neurological and chronic infection conditions.
He believes that toxins and infections are at the root of many conditions, including Autoimmune, Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s, Inner Ear Conditions, and most Degenerative Neurologic Conditions.