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Trump says some furloughed federal workers ‘don’t deserve’ back pay

Oct 8, 2025
The podcast dives into Trump’s controversial remarks about furloughed federal workers, discussing the potential implications on back pay and legal challenges ahead. It also features an analysis of Pam Bondi’s heated Senate hearing, revealing divisions between party lines. Additionally, the complexities of a Supreme Court case on Colorado's ban on conversion therapy are unpacked, highlighting medical consensus on its harms. Lastly, MLB postseason action is recapped, keeping sports fans in the loop with the latest updates.
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INSIGHT

Back Pay Threats As Political Leverage

  • President Trump threatened to withhold back pay for furloughed federal workers, citing a perceived legal loophole.
  • Joey Garrison says this is another bargaining threat aimed at pressuring Senate Democrats to pass a clean funding bill.
INSIGHT

Legal Ambiguity Over Furlough Pay

  • The White House cites an amendment to the 2019 law to argue ambiguity over automatic back pay for furloughed workers.
  • Garrison predicts unions will file major lawsuits if the administration withholds pay.
ADVICE

Look For Health Subsidies As A Deal Path

  • Watch for negotiations over extending Obamacare subsidies as a possible shutdown off-ramp.
  • Assess whether Trump’s openness to talks convinces enough Democrats to break the impasse, Garrison says.
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