In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Gene Getz who has served as a professor at Moody Bible Institute and Dallas Theological Seminary. He launched the Fellowship Bible Church movement in 1972. And he is the author of 60 books including The Measure of a Man and the Life Essentials Study Bible. During their conversation, they discuss the need for mentors, not viewing yourself as a professional, and how to be a lifelong learner. QUOTES FROM EPISODE 39: “I spent the first 20 years teaching people how to pastor and lead a church, and I’ve spent my last 40 years learning how to do it.” “I always want to thank God that someone comes to listen to me preach.” “I don’t want to just become a professional. I want to be a pastor and a shepherd.” “By the time I was 50, I realized how much more I needed to learn.” “I’m 88 years old, and it still scares me what I don’t know. We must always be a learner. Because there is more to know than we can ever learn in a lifetime.” “Your greatest strength is to trust people. Your greatest weakness is to trust people you shouldn’t trust.” “People are honored when they are asked for wisdom.” RESOURCES MENTIONED 5LQ Episode 422: Gene Getz Life Essentials Study Bible The Measure of a Man by Gene Getz Discipline by Grace by Jerry Bridges Team Sight (Style of Influence Personality Test)