In this episode we talk to Dori from Hungary and Lilly from the Czech Republic, who explain to us all about the Visegrád 4; the 700 year long cooperation between their countries along with Slovakia and Poland. We'll discuss the culture, politics, history and personalities of the countries, as well as sharing some perceptions. And as we debate the difference between Central and Eastern Europe, we'll also talk about the shadow of Russia over these countries, and the implications of the Russian invasion of Ukraine for our lives.