A Eulogy for ‘Tokyo Vice’ With Mina Kimes. Plus, the Case for ‘Presumed Innocent.’
Jun 13, 2024
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Mina Kimes and Chris bid farewell to 'Tokyo Vice' and discuss if the show ended well. They praise the show's improvement in the second season. They also chat about Apple TV+ shows and their favorites on the platform.
'Presumed Innocent' is praised as a needed pulpy courtroom drama.
'Tokyo Vice' excelled in character development and rich storytelling.
Apple TV shows criticized for lack of standout moments and high stakes.
Deep dives
Exploring Complex Character Relationships and Ethical Compromises
The podcast episode delves into the intricate character relationships and ethical dilemmas faced by the main characters in 'Tokyo Vice'. It highlights the evolving dynamics between the characters, especially the protagonist Jake, and the compromises they make in pursuit of their goals. These ethical challenges add depth to the storyline and create tension as the characters navigate the dark and immersive world of crime in Tokyo.
Innovative Use of Setting and Technological Limitations
'Tokyo Vice' creatively utilizes its setting in Tokyo and explores the technological limitations of the time period. The show effectively captures the neon-lit darkness of Tokyo's underworld while showcasing the constraints of communication and travel during that era. The contrast between the immersive Tokyo environment and the protagonist's journey back to the Midwest offers a compelling blend of visuals and thematic depth.
Character Development and Real-world Consequences
The podcast discusses the rich character development in 'Tokyo Vice', particularly focusing on key characters like Sato and Jake. It emphasizes the personal journeys, struggles, and real-world consequences these characters face as they navigate through the complexities of crime and power dynamics. The evolution of characters like Sato brings depth and authenticity to the narrative, adding layers of intrigue and emotional resonance to the storyline.
Tezawa arc's emotional and thematic ending
The Tezawa arc in the podcast episode concludes with a poignant and non-action-packed ending, where Tezawa is forced to perform seppuku. This emotional conclusion deviates from the expected action-filled climax, showcasing a balance between violence and ceremonial rituals within the Yakuza. Tezawa's compliance with tradition at the end of chaos adds depth to his character, culminating in a peaceful yet impactful resolution.
Challenges of transitioning views on Apple TV's content
The podcast delves into the challenges faced by Apple TV in capturing audiences' interests with its shows. Critiques include the lack of standout moments in seasons, over-reliance on famous actors, and a sense of predictability in the storytelling. The perceived smoothness and lack of high stakes in Apple TV's programming are contrasted with the immersive and critical tone of other acclaimed series, leading to questions regarding the platform's ability to engage wider audiences.
Chris makes the case for the new David E. Kelley show ‘Presumed Innocent,’ the pulpy courtroom drama the summer needs (1:10). Then he is joined by Mina Kimes to bid goodbye to ‘Tokyo Vice’ after it was canceled this week after two seasons. They talk about whether or not the show ended in a good place (11:06) and how it really came into its own in the second season (29:14). They end by talking about the comforting middleness of Apple TV+ shows and some of their favorites on the streamer (46:38).