The Stack Overflow Podcast

The open-source ecosystem built to reduce tech debt

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Nov 19, 2024
Jonathan Schneider, Co-founder of Moderne and ex-contributor at Netflix, dives deep into the world of automated source code transformations. He discusses the challenges companies face when migrating Java applications and the critical role of Open Rewrite in easing the transition. Schneider emphasizes the importance of team collaboration for successful upgrades and tackles how AI is reshaping developer productivity. He also highlights the need for balance by advocating for breaks as essential for mental rejuvenation in tech.
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ANECDOTE

Netflix Java Migration Challenges

  • Jonathan Schneider worked at Netflix to move the company from older Java versions to newer ones.
  • Product teams, burdened with feature work, often pushed back, saying, "Do it for me."
INSIGHT

Java Migration Complexity

  • Migrating between Java versions is challenging due to extensive manual work and required context.
  • OpenRewrite's recipes simplify this with pre-packaged transformations, addressing even complex migrations like Spring Boot.
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Java Perception and Evolution

  • Java's verbosity and older framework conventions contribute to its negative perception.
  • Its conservative evolution, while ensuring stability, can make it appear dated compared to newer languages.
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