THE RUNNING EFFECT PODCAST

From NCAA Champion to NYC Debut: Charles Hicks on Switching Flags, Swoosh TC, and Building for 26.2

Oct 3, 2025
In this insightful discussion, Charles Hicks, a professional distance runner and Stanford alum, shares his transition to marathon running while training with Nike's Swoosh TC. He dives into the emotions behind switching his international ties to the U.S. and why he chose NYC for his marathon debut. Hicks reveals how his recent success at Cherry Blossom influenced this career move and reflects on the grind of marathon training versus his track background. He also talks about co-founding Scholarly, helping college applicants connect with insightful resources.
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INSIGHT

Switching Flags For Future Alignment

  • Charles switched from Great Britain to the U.S. to align his athletic life with his long-term personal roots and future family.
  • He prioritized forward-looking identity and emotional fit over short-term convenience.
ANECDOTE

Cherry Blossom Forced The Reveal

  • Cherry Blossom was meant as a first road test and not an announcement moment, but the performance forced the decision into the open.
  • Charles says the race exceeded his expectations and felt like a signal to move forward.
INSIGHT

Good Can Block Greater Potential

  • Good can be the enemy of great: staying in an event you're already strong in can block potential greatness elsewhere.
  • Charles and Jerry used workout evidence and gut feeling to test the marathon pathway.
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