On Deep Dish, we’re revisiting our conversation about the world of espionage and the secrets of intelligence gathering with Amy Zegart, author of Spies, Lies, and Algorithms. As new technology continues to disrupt all aspects of our lives, Zegart explains how these innovations are changing espionage and why spy myths perpetuated by Hollywood often get in the way of understanding threats.

[This episode originally aired: March 24, 2022]

Related Content:  

• Spies, Lies, and Algorithms: The History and Future of American Intelligence, Amy Zegart, Princeton University Press, February 1, 2022 

• Senate Intelligence Hearing on Worldwide Threats, PBS NewsHour, March 8, 2023 

• National Security Commission on Artificial Intelligence, Final Report, March 19, 2021