Miles sits down with Joe Gebbia, Sr., founder and CEO of State Shield, an organization on the frontlines of countering CCP influence across US state and local governments. They discuss a wide range of issues vital to supporting state and local legislatures to protect their citizens and infrastructure, including State Shield’s origins, mission and current projects, and the importance of preserving American interests at the sub-national level.

China Insider is a weekly podcast project from Hudson Institute’s China Center hosted by Miles Yu, who provides weekly news that mainstream American outlets often miss and in-depth commentary and analysis on the China challenge and the free world’s future.

China Insider Interview | Joe Gebbia, Sr. of State Shield