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SELECT LINKS:

Dan’s reference: the most interesting new city project in San Francisco: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/25/business/land-purchases-solano-county.html
James Portnoy, Founder of Barstool, going on the offensive against a Washington Post reporter writing a hit piece: https://deadline.com/2023/09/barstool-sports-owner-dave-portnoy-confronts-washington-post-reporter-1235554436/
Most important blog: Scott Alexander’s https://slatestarcodex.com/ which is now Astral Codex Ten https://www.astralcodexten.com/
Curtis Yarvin: https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/, https://graymirror.substack.com/

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@eriktorenberg (Erik Torenberg)

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Episode Preview

(05:00) Why San Francisco’s Network Effects, like Twitter, is futile to leave (Network Effects are a bitch)

(13:40) Tech reclaiming a political voice

(15:30) Sponsors: Vanta | NetSuite

(17:40) Media losing ground after taking too many shots during the last administration

(20:35) Mood affiliation & social justice policies in tech companies

(23:05) In this economy?

(30:41) Balaji Srinivasan

(34:25)The Borg

(39:10) Social Supply Chain

(40:21) Curtis Yarvin

(59:40) Bring your whole self to work

(01:03:00) The clear pill: winning by losing

(01:10:00) Good ideas, bad UI

(01:16:35) Newspapers are a mood affiliation business

(01:19:24) Right and Left wing, who loses in the long arc of history?

(01:26:30) Dan’s thinking around the next successful candidate

(01:33:05) Threshold for changing your thinking

China, U.S. Imperialism, and the New Cold War