I get shown a lot of tool demos and one thing is clear…

Canvas-based UX will play a pivotal role in how we interface with AI.

It’s a big reason why Figma just bought Weavy 👀

So I interviewed Steve Ruiz who is the founder of tldraw where he's spent over 3 years and $5 million dollars building the perfect canvas (which powers many of the startups that we've studied on this show).

Some highlights:

Why he’s been obsessing over fairies
Steve’s principles for good tool design
How he was able to learn to code so quickly
What Steve’s learned through his AI experiments
How he’s thinking about the future of agentic design
a lot more

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