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#243 No-Code LLMs In Practice with Birago Jones & Karthik Dinakar, CEO & CTO at Pienso

Sep 12, 2024

Birago Jones, CEO of Pienso, and Karthik Dinakar, CTO, discuss the rise of no-code AI tools that empower domain experts to create AI models without coding skills. They reveal how these platforms make it easier for industries like healthcare and journalism to tailor solutions to specific needs. The duo emphasizes the importance of nuance in model training, the role of effective user interfaces, and the balance needed between large models and tailored solutions. Additionally, they touch on data privacy challenges and the future of AI experimentation.

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Karthik Dinakar

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No-code AI platforms like Pienso empower domain experts to train and fine-tune models without needing programming skills, fostering user-driven AI innovation.

The podcast emphasizes the importance of customizing AI solutions to meet specific business needs, ensuring that domain knowledge is integrated into AI systems effectively.

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Mismatch Between AI Models and Business Needs

The podcast highlights a disconnect between the development goals of large foundation AI models and the practical needs of businesses. While models like GPT and Claude are designed for versatility in generating varied types of content, enterprises specifically require models that excel in producing domain-specific text. This necessity can often be addressed through fine-tuning, yet this process introduces challenges, particularly in bridging the gap between AI engineers lacking domain knowledge and domain experts unfamiliar with technical coding. The emphasis is on tailoring AI solutions that directly respond to the specific language and requirements of distinct industries.

Understanding Organizational Nuance in Model Training

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Choose Tools Wisely: Simplify Over Scale

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Cooking with Data: Prepare Before Consumption

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Intro

2min

Empowering Experts with No-Code AI

14min

Emphasizing Nuance in Machine Learning and Organizational Knowledge

2min

Empowering Experts Through No-Code Data Science

3min

Navigating AI Complexity in Enterprises

24min

Navigating Data Privacy and Consistency in Generative AI for Enterprises

4min

The AI Revolution: Experimentation and Impact

5min

As AI becomes more accessible, a growing question is: should machine learning experts always be the ones training models, or is there a better way to leverage other subject matter experts in the business who know the use-case best? What if getting started building AI apps required no coding skills? As businesses look to implement AI at scale, what part can no-code AI apps play in getting projects off the ground, and how feasible are smaller, tailored solutions for department specific use-cases?

Birago Jones is the CEO at Pienso. Pienso is an AI platform that empowers subject matter experts in various enterprises, such as business analysts, to create and fine-tune AI models without coding skills. Prior to Pienso, Birago was a Venture Partner at Indicator Ventures and a Research Assistant at MIT Media Lab where he also founded the Media Lab Alumni Association.

Karthik Dinakar is a computer scientist specializing in machine learning, natural language processing, and human-computer interaction. He is the Chief Technology Officer and co-founder at Pienso. Prior to founding Pienso, Karthik held positions at Microsoft and Deutsche Bank. Karthik holds a doctoral degree from MIT in Machine Learning.

In the episode, Richie, Birago and Karthik explore why no-code AI apps are becoming more prominent, uses-cases of no-code AI apps, the steps involved in creating an LLM, the benefits of small tailored models, how no-code can impact workflows, cost in AI projects, AI interfaces and the rise of the chat interface, privacy and customization, excitement about the future of AI, and much more.

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DataFramed

#243 No-Code LLMs In Practice with Birago Jones & Karthik Dinakar, CEO & CTO at Pienso

Episode guests

Podcast summary created with Snipd AI

Quick takeaways

Deep dives

Mismatch Between AI Models and Business Needs

The Role of Domain Experts in AI Development

Iterative Fine-Tuning and Model Customization

No-Code Solutions and Data Privacy

Understanding Organizational Nuance in Model Training

Choose Tools Wisely: Simplify Over Scale

Cooking with Data: Prepare Before Consumption

Remember Everything You Learn from Podcasts