
 SpyTalk
 SpyTalk Accidents Will Happen
 Sep 23, 2021 
 Chinese espionage expert Matthew Brazil and Jeff Stein discuss controversies around General Mark Milley's backchannel contact with his Chinese counterpart. Jeane Meserve and Tom Sanderson explore the emergence of Taliban-controlled Afghanistan as a terrorist state. 
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 Introduction 
 00:00 • 6min 
 Power Dynamics and Control in Afghanistan 
 06:02 • 11min 
 China's and Russia's Influence in Afghanistan and Central Asia 
 16:39 • 2min 
 Chinese Intelligence Penetration and Tactics 
 18:35 • 16min 
 Analyzing General Milley's communication with China 
 34:39 • 2min 
 Avoiding Misunderstandings and Accidental Wars: Chinese Intelligence and Espionage 
 36:39 • 3min 
