Science Magazine Podcast

Understanding early Amazon communities and saving the endangered pocket mouse

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Nov 6, 2025
Sofia Moutinho, a contributing correspondent from Brazil, shares insights from her collaboration with the Kuikuro to uncover the complex history of early Amazon communities using technology like drones and LiDAR. On a different note, researchers Aryn Wilder and Debra Shier discuss the Pacific pocket mouse recovery program, tackling the challenges of increasing genetic diversity among isolated mouse populations despite chromosomal mismatches. They explore innovative breeding strategies and wildlife tracking methods aimed at enhancing survival in the wild.
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ANECDOTE

Partnership Began With Local Trust

  • Michael Heckenberger built trust with the Kuikuro and collaborated directly, often coauthoring papers with local leaders.
  • Kuikuro people guided fieldwork, pointing to ancestral village sites and sharing oral history that shaped research.
INSIGHT

Hidden Amazon Cities Revealed

  • LiDAR and drones reveal interconnected plazas, roads, and embankments hidden under forest canopy.
  • Combining indigenous knowledge with remote sensing exposes large, complex precolonial Amazon settlements.
INSIGHT

Decolonizing Research Through Co‑Leadership

  • The project helped decolonize archaeology by crediting Kuikuro coauthors and sharing control over research questions.
  • Indigenous people now decide what areas are scanned and which cultural details are made public.
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