Ever considered how many new churches we need to plant by 2050 to keep pace with the growth in our communities? It might surprise you - the number is a staggering 70,000! And how does the PCA fit into this picture? In this episode, Damein and Ben sit down with Irwyn Ince, the North American Coordinator for Mission to North America (MNA) as we navigate through his experiences, challenges, and successes in his second year of service. We tackle the hard reality of the PCA's role in addressing the church-planting needs for the future. 

But that's not all - we also delve into the intricacies of church planting. It's not just about multiplying numbers; it's about diversity and a shift in mindset. With pointed conversations on immigration, credentialing, and language barriers, we unpack how we can better serve our global south. In our pursuit of effective evangelism, we also explore the principle of embracing discomfort, leaning into doctrinal commitments, and earning the right to share the gospel. Join us as we traverse the journey of church planting's future in the PCA, a journey filled with challenges, changes, and immense possibilities.