Ep 74. Zach Kramer - How understanding civil rights differently could advance equity in America

Interim Dean of Arizona State University's Law School and author of the recently published Outsiders, Professor Zachary Kramer, thinks we should understand human rights violations differently. He talks to Catherine about the power of recognizing rights and identity on an individual basis rather than in groups, as well as a whole lot of other things: leadership, powerful listening, storytelling in the law, and the secret to being a great lawyer.