S5 #091 Commanding 1 PWRR Battle Group - Operation TELIC 4 (Iraq 2004)

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My guest today is retired Brigadier Matt Maer DSO MBE, who served for 27 years in the British Army. His distinguished career included operational tours in Northern Ireland, Bosnia, Kosovo, Iraq, and Afghanistan. In addition to regimental duties, he held key intelligence roles within Defence Intelligence and the Joint Terrorism Analysis Centre. In this episode, we explore the motivations behind his enlistment, his early training, and his evolving aspirations. A central focus of our conversation is his command of 1 PWRR (Princess of Wales’s Royal Regiment) during Operation TELIC 4 in Iraq, a pivotal and demanding period marked by the transition from peace support operations to fierce urban combat.

Matt offers deep insights into the operational challenges of TELIC 4, including the complexities of the rules of engagement, the strain on logistics, and the crucial role of communication in sustaining morale under fire. He discusses the need for adaptive leadership in modern warfare, stressing that respect in command must be continually earned, not assumed by rank. Drawing comparisons between his experiences in Northern Ireland and Iraq, he highlights the importance of rigorous, realistic training and the enduring resilience of British infantry soldiers in the face of unpredictable and high-intensity conflict.

We also reflect on the legacy of the tour, the impact of gallantry awards, and the timeless leadership lessons around flexibility, trust, and preparation that remain relevant to today’s military professionals.

Matt's book choice on Desert Island Dits is "Legionnaire - Five Years In The French Foreign Legion The World's Toughest Army". My choice is "Dusty Warriors" by Richard Holmes.

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