

U.S. government shuts down as Trump and Congress fail to reach a funding deal
Oct 1, 2025
Retired Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling, a U.S. Army veteran and MSNBC military analyst, shares his insights on the recent government shutdown and its implications. He criticizes Trump's call for military training in American cities, emphasizing that such actions violate legal and ethical standards. Hertling also discusses the embarrassment felt by veterans over the political exploitation of military events and stresses the importance of maintaining military professionalism and integrity amidst rising tensions.
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Using Troops Against Americans Was Alarming
- President Trump told military leaders he might use the U.S. military to "train" on American cities, which alarmed hosts as dangerous and unprecedented.
- Hosts emphasized this crosses legal and constitutional lines and unsettled even pro-Trump listeners.
Shutdown Begins After Funding Talks Fail
- The U.S. government officially shut down at midnight after Congress and the White House failed to agree on funding.
- Both parties rejected proposals and no clear resolution path existed at the time of the broadcast.
Premium Subsidies Are The Core Budget Fight
- The central fight concerned ACA exchange premium subsidies set to expire and potential spike in premiums and lost coverage.
- John Bresnahan warned CBO estimates could mean millions lose insurance over a decade if subsidies lapse.