There are times when I feel sad. My sadness is often accompanied by feelings of loneliness - I feel disconnected from people and what’s really vital in my life. Perhaps, you also experience this. Today’s guest is Ximena Vengoechea, someone with unique insights into connection. She works in the tech industry as a ‘user researcher,’ but this is not Ximena’s sole title; she is also an artist, a facilitator, and a writer. In this episode, she shares the essence of productive conversation and how to ensure that neither party is left feeling lonely. Get‌ ‌book‌ ‌links‌ ‌and‌ ‌resources‌ ‌at‌ https://www.mbs.works/2-pages-podcast/ 

Ximena reads two pages from ‘Reclaiming Conversation: The Power of Talk in a Digital Age’ by Sherry Turkle. [reading begins at 16:02]

Hear us talk about: 

The importance of boredom. [21:12] | Navigating loneliness: “It’s hard to feel lonely when you feel understood and seen in a conversation.” [25:35] | Becoming someone that others listen to: “Conversations come with needs.” [28:04]