Perplexity’s Fourth Funding Round + Lessons From Boeing in Long-Term Thinking
Oct 28, 2024
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The discussion kicks off with a look at declining home sales and Tesla's earnings. The hosts delve into a McDonald's health scare and Shein's slowing growth. Scott argues that despite recent challenges, Boeing could still be a strong investment. They also tackle the complexities of Boeing's labor strike and its pension plans. Finally, Perplexity's funding round is analyzed, revealing differing outlooks on its potential amid competitive tensions in the AI search engine landscape.
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Boeing's ongoing labor strike poses significant risks to its financial recovery, highlighting tensions between traditional pensions and modern retirement benefits.
Shein's continued revenue growth despite ethical scrutiny reflects the complexities of balancing profitability with social responsibility in fast fashion.
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Boeing's Strike and Financial Struggles
Boeing is currently facing significant challenges, including a strike by its workers who have rejected a contract proposal despite the offer of a 35% raise over four years. The workers are advocating for a 40% increase, exposing underlying issues between traditional pensions and modern retirement plans. Boeing reported a staggering quarterly loss of $6 billion, its worst since 2020, and also noted ongoing cash burn through 2025. The current labor situation has implications for Boeing's financial stability, as a prolonged strike may hinder its ability to recover and improve operations.
Real Estate Market Trends
The real estate market is experiencing a decline, with sales of existing homes in the U.S. dropping 3.5% year-over-year, marking the lowest levels seen since 2010. This trend raises concerns, particularly for younger individuals hoping to enter the housing market, as prices relative to income are at all-time highs. Despite this, historical data suggests that current housing affordability, when accounting for factors like mortgage rates, is on par with levels seen in the mid-1980s. There is a push for increased housing supply and government subsidies to alleviate these challenges, as many young potential buyers are encouraged to educate themselves on the market for future opportunities.
Tesla's Q3 Earnings and Market Position
Tesla reported a 17% increase in net income and operating expenses dropping by 6%, signaling a positive third quarter despite mixed overall growth. The electric vehicle manufacturer's success in increasing revenues from higher-margin products, such as energy storage systems, demonstrates a shift in business strategy. However, the stock remains heavily valued at roughly 79 times forward earnings, which raises concerns about its pricing in relation to fundamentals, especially compared to sector peers like NVIDIA. The company's growth trajectory continues to attract investors, but caution is advised regarding its valuation sustainability.
Shifting Dynamics in Fast Fashion with Shein
Shein's growth rate has slowed to 23% in the first half of the year as it faces scrutiny over labor practices within its supply chain, including reports of child labor. Despite this, the company continues to outpace competitors in the fast fashion sector, demonstrating resilience with remarkable revenue growth. However, ethical concerns related to sourcing and manufacturing practices may affect its long-term brand image and market entry strategies, especially if planning an IPO. Investors are advised to consider both the financial performance and moral implications of supporting a company like Shein, weighing potential profitability against ethical considerations.
Scott and Ed open the show by discussing the decline in existing home sales, Tesla’s earnings, the McDonald’s E. coli outbreak, and Shein’s deceleration in growth in the first half of the year. Then Scott explains down why he thinks, despite the disappointing earnings, Boeing could be a buy. He and Ed also discuss why the pension plan is the biggest sticking point in negotiations for the striking workers. Finally, they break down Perplexity’s latest funding round and Ed explains why he’s not so bullish on the company.