In Anita's lifetime, the divorce rate for Americans over 55 has doubled. People are living longer, divorce stigma has decreased and women are more financially independent. But leaving a decades-long marriage … is a big life upheaval. Anita gets personal accounts from two gray divorcees about what it was like to rebuild their identities, finances and freedom post-divorce. They discuss money management, surfing and why women initiate divorce most often in heterosexual partnerships.

Meet the guests:

- Laura Stassi is a writer, editor and the host of the podcast "Dating While Gray"

- Dr. Stephanie Han is a literature scholar, award-winning author and educator

Special thanks to Nanette Murphy and Linda Lingo for sharing their thoughts for this episode!

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Please note: This episode originally aired August 15, 2024.

Update: Stephanie’s guide to writing your divorce story and her class on the same topic was featured on Oprah Daily.

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