

Full Episode: Sunday, August 17, 2025
Aug 17, 2025
Secretary of State Marco Rubio discusses the aftermath of the Trump-Putin summit, emphasizing the disappointing lack of agreements on Ukraine. He highlights the urgent need for diplomatic negotiations despite a seemingly friendly meeting. Former Biden National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan provides critical analysis of Rubio's statements, probing the complexities of U.S.-Russian relations and the ongoing conflict. Together, they explore Ukraine's strategic challenges and the broader implications of U.S. leadership on international peace efforts.
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Summit Delivered Optics, Not Ceasefire
- The Alaska summit produced optics but no ceasefire or immediate consequences for Russia.
- That outcome shifts pressure onto Ukraine to negotiate and weakens leverage against Putin.
Ukrainians See Summit As Setback
- Ian Pannell reported Ukrainians felt betrayed by the Alaska summit's optics while fighting continued.
- He said Putin is asking for sweeping territorial gains, an unacceptable demand to many Ukrainians.
Private Negotiations Over Public Pressure
- Marco Rubio argued the meeting made