In the second part of my interview with Shannon Watts, founder of Moms Demand Action, author of "Fight Like a Mother, and host of the Substack newsletter "Playing with Fire" (where she addresses overlooked topics head on, such as ADHD in women and girls and the benefits of hormone therapy for relief of menopause symptoms), we get into the mindset side of writing.

We covered:

- Reckoning with the enormity of needing to produce 60,000+ words for a book

- The "small miracle" or crystallizing a thought in a way you hadn't been able to articulate before

- How getting reiki helps her write

- Shifting out of perfectionism and into flow

- The huge difference in the lived experience between Gen X women and their mothers

- Taking aim at mom guilt

- The woo woo retreat that almost made her run for the door, but turned out to be a much-needed entryway to being playful

Visit Shannon at shannonwatts.substack.com.

For full show notes (including bonus photos!) visit katehanley.substack.com.

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