Hard Fork The A.I. Jobpocalypse + Building at Anthropic with Mike Krieger + Hard Fork Crimes Division
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May 30, 2025 
Mike Krieger, co-founder of Instagram and Chief Product Officer at Anthropic, discusses the looming job apocalypse for new graduates as AI reshapes the job market. He dives into the capabilities of the Claude 4 model, exploring its implications on future work dynamics and job displacement. The conversation also touches on ethical concerns surrounding AI, particularly the risk of blackmail. Wrapping up with a humorous twist, there are lighthearted moments reflecting on the peculiarities of startup naming and the tech landscape.
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High Graduate Unemployment Rate
- Unemployment among recent college graduates is unusually high at 5.8%, rising 30% since 2022.
- Entry-level white-collar jobs in tech, finance, and consulting show significant hiring softness.
Agentic AI Mimics Complex Tasks
- Agentic AI can carry out multi-step tasks, similar to playing a complex game like Pokemon.
- This capability signals potential automation of entry-level jobs requiring task sequences, like software engineering and consulting.
AI Coding Marathon Reveals Job Risks
- Claude Opus 4 can code for hours nonstop, showing improvement in long-horizon task handling.
- Many entry-level white-collar jobs resemble repetitive coding tasks, making them vulnerable to AI automation.