The Bulwark Podcast Susan Glasser and Jared Polis: Shaking Up the Holdouts
Oct 11, 2024
Susan Glasser, a staff writer at The New Yorker and co-author of "The Divider," teams up with Jared Polis, the progressive Governor of Colorado. They dive into Obama’s call to disenchanted Trump voters and the dangers of his rogue foreign policy. The discussion highlights Trump’s relation with Putin, his pandemic actions, and the impact of oligarchic influences like Elon Musk. Polis shares insights on the misrepresentation of Aurora, emphasizing community growth despite political rhetoric and the complexities of Venezuelan immigration.
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Trump's Foreign Policy Focus
- Trump's foreign policy focuses on boasting about relationships with adversaries like Putin and Xi Jinping.
- This raises concerns, especially given new revelations about Trump's post-presidency interactions with Putin.
Trump's Rogue Foreign Policy
- Trump's potential calls with Putin after leaving office raise national security concerns.
- Foreign entities are engaging with Trump due to US internal divisions, seeking insight into Republican foreign policy.
Trump's Hypocrisy on Foreign Interactions
- During Bush's term, foreign powers didn't seek Kerry's opinion, unlike now with Trump.
- Trump demanded an investigation into Kerry's talks with Iranians while he, himself, reportedly interacted with Putin.
