The Trump Comeback... Michael Wolff’s Inside Story

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Mar 21, 2025

In this engaging conversation, journalist Michael Wolff, known for his sharp insights on Donald Trump, delves into the complexities of Trump's relationships, including his intriguing ties with Elon Musk. Wolff offers insider details about Trump's political comeback, revealing how personal connections shaped his success. He dissects Trump's relationship with Melania, exploring its transactional nature and how it mirrors his professional dynamics. The discussion emphasizes the unique challenges of reporting on Trump's controversial figure and governance style.

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ANECDOTE

Melania's Disdain

Michael Wolff discusses Melania Trump's role, or lack thereof, in Donald Trump's political life.
She rarely appeared in public and, according to a source, "hates his guts."

ANECDOTE

The Printer Girl

Natalie Harp, a young staffer, carries a portable printer for Trump.
She prints documents that confirm Trump's views, creating an echo chamber.

INSIGHT

Trump's Aversion to Debate

Trump avoids situations where he might be confronted or challenged, preferring controlled environments.
He thrives on name-calling and insults but shies away from genuine debate.

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How did Donald Trump get close to Elon Musk? What is the story behind his relationship with Melania, and how did Trump get re-elected against all the odds?

Donald Trump is no stranger to the journalist Michael Wolff, whose latest book is his fourth on the current president. His book, All or Nothing, details the story of Trump’s comeback and and his relationships to the people who helped him do it.

Trump himself has called Wolff “fake news” and described the book as “junk.”

Justin spoke with the journalist and author about who is sources are, whether he spoke to Trump whilst writing this book, and why a staffer carries a printer on the golf course.

HOSTS:

* Justin Webb, Radio 4 presenter

GUEST:

* Michael Wolff, journalist and author of “All or Nothing: How Trump Recaptured America”

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