The New Axis of Evil: Condoleezza Rice on War in Israel and a Changed World
Oct 13, 2023
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Condoleezza Rice, former Secretary of State, discusses the ongoing war in Israel, the importance of leadership during crises, and the unprecedented brutality of the recent attack by Hamas. She explores the potential outcomes, the two-state solution, Iran's role, Israel's normalization with Saudi Arabia, and the dangers of American isolationism. Rice reflects on the scale of the conflict, draws parallels to 9/11, and emphasizes the need to prevent future attacks. The podcast also explores the recent normalization between Israel and Gulf states, with a focus on Saudi Arabia, and discusses changing dynamics in Saudi Arabia and the importance of technology in Israel. Rice reflects on personal experiences in segregated Birmingham and highlights the connection between the attack on Israel and the United States.
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Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice highlights the severity and difference in brutality of the current war in Israel compared to previous Gaza crises.
Rice emphasizes the challenges and obstacles posed by Hamas in achieving a two-state solution and rebukes the notion that Hamas represents the legitimate interests of the Palestinian people.
Rice underscores the significant role of Iran in supporting and funding Hamas and calls for addressing the Iranian influence in the region.
Condoleezza Rice, former Secretary of State, shares insights about leadership during times of crisis. As someone who served during five Gaza Wars and the 9/11 attacks, Rice provides firsthand knowledge about leading through unthinkable situations. She discusses the current war in Israel, its potential implications, and the role of Hamas and Iran in the conflict. Rice also emphasizes the dangers of isolationism and the importance of America's presence on the world stage.
The significance of the current war in Israel
Rice reflects on the severity of the current war in Israel, emphasizing the difference in brutality compared to previous Gaza crises. She condemns the invasion of Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad into Israeli territory, highlighting the untold brutality and the threats posed to Israeli citizens. Rice also addresses the need for an informed understanding of the conflict, debunking the notion that Hamas represents the legitimate interests of the Palestinian people.
Challenges of the land-for-peace paradigm
Rice discusses the challenges and complexities of the land-for-peace paradigm, particularly in relation to the Israeli withdrawal from Gaza in 2005. She acknowledges the legitimate hopes for a two-state solution, but also highlights the destructive actions of Hamas that continuously derail progress. Rice argues for continued efforts towards a two-state solution while emphasizing the obstacles posed by Palestinian leadership.
The role of Iran in the conflict
Rice underscores the significant role of Iran in supporting and funding Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad. She explains the historical context of Hamas as a terrorist organization that does not recognize Israel's right to exist. Rice condemns those who normalize or sympathize with Hamas and its acts of brutality, emphasizing the need to address the Iranian influence in the region.
The importance of unity and action in response
Rice stresses the importance of unity and decisive action in responding to the crisis in Israel. She discusses Israel's military strategy, potential ground invasion, and the challenges posed by the presence of hostages. Rice also calls for a unified Israeli government and emphasizes the need to consider the humanitarian situation in Gaza amidst the conflict.
In the early hours of Saturday morning on October 7, Israel was invaded by Hamas terrorists by land, air, and sea, which The Free Press has been covering all week in detail. With over 1,300 Israeli civilians dead, hundreds taken hostage into Gaza, and many more in critical condition, this catastrophic and barbaric attack has been labeled “Israel’s 9/11.”
This is something former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice knows something about.
After all, Secretary Rice led our nation as national security advisor on September 11. As one of the most powerful people in the world at a turning point in American history, Secretary Rice knows firsthand about leadership amid unthinkable crises. She also knows firsthand about the intractable conflicts Israel has faced for decades, having served in both her national leadership roles through five Gaza wars and crises.
Today, Secretary Rice discusses why this war is different than anything she has seen before in the region, whether the prospect for a two-state solution is over, what Iran’s role was in aiding Hamas, what Israel seeking normalization of relations with Saudi Arabia had to do with it, why America cannot afford to retreat from the world, and why Israel—and the world—will never be the same.