Angela Saini, a misinformation expert and leading UK Science Journalist + Author, discusses the theme of her latest book, 'The Patriarchs: How Men Came to Rule.' The podcast challenges the assumption of patriarchal societies always existing and explores the existence of matriarchies and gender fluidity. It delves into historical evidence disproving male dominance and examines the origins of gender oppression through archaeological findings. The podcast also explores the historical context of gender equality and women's roles in society, comparing the US and Soviet Union. It emphasizes the fragility of patriarchy and the fight for gender equality, challenging deep-rooted customs and beliefs.
The assumption of natural male domination was debunked by evidence of indigenous American societies living in egalitarian ways, contradicting the belief in primitive matriarchal societies as a civilized advancement.
Power dynamics in patriarchal societies are not fixed, with power concentrated among elite groups, while matrilocal and matrilineal societies demonstrate more diverse and balanced power structures where women and men share influence and authority.
Deep dives
The Origins of Inequality
In the 19th century, philosophers and anthropologists questioned the origins of inequality. They discovered that indigenous American societies were already living in egalitarian ways, contradicting the assumption of a natural male domination. However, the idea of primitive matriarchal societies emerged, positioning patriarchy as a civilized advancement. This belief shaped European colonization efforts and undermined indigenous cultures.
Challenging the Patriarchy
Angela Saney, an engineer and author, challenges the pseudoscience and assumptions that uphold patriarchal systems. Her work focuses on debunking myths of male superiority and the false narrative of a golden age before patriarchy. She emphasizes that historical evidence shows societies with varying gender dynamics, including matrilineal and matrilocal societies that shared power between men and women.
Shifting Power Dynamics
The power dynamics in patriarchal societies are not fixed. While men often hold positions of authority, power is usually concentrated among elite groups rather than universally shared by all men. Matrilocal and matrilineal societies, on the other hand, demonstrate more diverse and balanced power structures, where women and men have influence and authority. The spread of patriarchy was driven by empires and colonization, deliberately imposing a specific gender order.
Challenging Patriarchy and the Path to Change
Challenging patriarchy requires questioning and dismantling deeply ingrained customs, cultures, and social structures. However, change is slow because society is not only committed to equality but also to established traditions and ideologies. The pace of change varies across different regions and societies, with some embracing more balanced power dynamics while others resist. Progress towards gender equality involves offering a liberating vision of society that allows individuals to live and express themselves freely beyond narrow gender stereotypes.
Angela Saini (One of the “World’s Top 50 Thinkers”, a leading UK Science Journalist + Author) is a misinformation expert whose intellectual range is truly wild.
Angela has a masters from The Department of War Studies at Kings College London; she’s made documentaries on the climate crisis, birdsong (!) and eugenics; her previous books have tackled race science and gender inequality; she founded “Challenging Pseudoscience” as part of London’s Royal Institution and sits on a bunch of other esteemed British and global scientific boards. Of course, she was named one of the World’s Top 50 Thinkers by Prospect Magazine in 2020 and in 2018 she was voted one of the most respected journalists in the UK!
In this WILD episode, we talk about the theme of her latest book The Patriarchs: How Men Came to Rule. We smash the patriarchal idea that patriarchies have always existed; show how matriarchies tended to be cooler with gender fluidity; and how we ALL have a part to play in keeping the status quo propped up.