The podcast explores the impact of 9/11 on a military family and the subsequent healing and dialogue around political beliefs.
The sisters have different focuses in their work, with one centering on political education and organizational design, and the other on public-facing work, electoral and climate justice.
The family dynamics and upbringing shaped the sisters' political journeys, fostering a desire for rigorous analysis, emotional connection, and transformation of the world.
Deep dives
Growing up in a military family and the impact of 9/11
We grew up in a military family, with our father serving in the military for 30 years. Before 9/11, we had a lot of pride and patriotism, but 9/11 was a polarizing moment for our family. It led to healing and dialogue around political beliefs. I credit our family culture for shaping my own ability to engage in political debates and ground my analysis. I work in political education, designing liberatory practices for social justice organizations. I value rigorous ideas and the ability to handle challenges to my beliefs. Our work is different, with me focusing on political education and organizational design.
Aligned work and distinctions between us
While we share some similarities, such as being facilitators, organizers, writers, and musicians, there are distinct differences in our work. Autumn focuses on intellectual and design-focused work, doing political education, designing liberatory practices, and facilitating organizational change. She engages in rigorous analysis and grounding her work. I, on the other hand, focus on public-facing work, electoral and climate justice, and centering the leadership of indigenous and POC communities. We both have different political lenses, with Autumn being part of anarchist organizing and Adrian focusing on electoral and climate justice work. We exchange ideas while pursuing our respective paths.
Family dynamics and impact
Our family dynamics have shaped our political journeys. Our parents' interracial marriage and their decision to create their own path influenced us. We grew up as close allies due to being mixed race in a racially diverse but segregated military environment. Our extended family provided a sense of connection with South Carolina roots. The military background instilled structure, while our emphasis on conversation and political debate fostered our political development. Our work reflects our desires for rigorous analysis, emotional connection, and finding ways to transform the world.
Questioning and Critical Thinking in Education
The speaker reflects on their journey of questioning and critical thinking, which started in sixth grade when they wrote an essay opposing school uniforms. They credit an influential journalism teacher in Germany for encouraging them to think critically and apply to Columbia University. They describe their college experience as a time of political awakening, where they encountered different perspectives and became more radical in their beliefs.
Impact of 9/11 on Personal and Political Beliefs
The speaker discusses the profound impact of 9/11 on their family, particularly their relationship with their father who worked at the Pentagon. The events of that day led to a rift in their viewpoints about US military responses and the question of accountability. The speaker and their sibling both became politically active and joined the anti-war movement. They highlight the significance of their father's role in the war plans division, which contributed to their politicization. The episode also touches on the challenges of being introverted or extroverted in community organizing and the role of emotional intuition versus analytical approaches in their activism.
The Brown sisters realized halfway thru this series that they had to be interviewed, and the interviewer had to be Dani McClain (journalist, author, mother, caretaker and chosen sibling). The sisters remember things differently and tenderly, in perhaps their most vulnerable public conversation to date.