The Good Trouble Show with Matt Ford | UAP & Politics International Space Station Scientist: We Can't Afford to Lose Space to China
Jun 25, 2025
01:16:19
In this episode, we explore the broader implications of the U.S.-China space race, particularly regarding the International Space Station (ISS) and its critical role in maintaining American leadership in space. Investigative journalist Matt Ford is joined by Dr. Donna Roberts and Anna Brady Estevez to discuss how abandoning the ISS could jeopardize U.S. dominance and impact national security. They analyze the rapid advancements in China’s space program and the political landscape, including tensions involving key figures like Donald Trump and Elon Musk. This episode emphasizes the importance of U.S. investment in space science and technology amidst rising geopolitical challenges and the need for robust UAP research to secure the nation's position in the new space race.
Matt Ford is joined by Dr. Donna Roberts, MD, Deputy Chief Scientist at the ISS National Laboratory, and Anna Brady Estevez of American DeepTech to discuss why continued U.S. investment in the ISS is critical to science, technology, and national security. From cutting-edge space science and international space policy to rising tensions in low Earth orbit, the future of American space leadership is on the line.
The conversation also dives into political tensions here on Earth. Is the feud between Donald Trump and Elon Musk putting U.S. space leadership at risk? As Congress debates the controversial “Big Beautiful Bill,” funding for space technology, the ISS, and national science priorities hangs in the balance.
With Elon Musk threatening to pull SpaceX support and China accelerating its space strategy, Matt Ford asks the tough questions: Are we sleepwalking into a new space Cold War? Can America afford to cede the final frontier?
Segment Producer: Ali Travis
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Matt Ford is joined by Dr. Donna Roberts, MD, Deputy Chief Scientist at the ISS National Laboratory, and Anna Brady Estevez of American DeepTech to discuss why continued U.S. investment in the ISS is critical to science, technology, and national security. From cutting-edge space science and international space policy to rising tensions in low Earth orbit, the future of American space leadership is on the line.
The conversation also dives into political tensions here on Earth. Is the feud between Donald Trump and Elon Musk putting U.S. space leadership at risk? As Congress debates the controversial “Big Beautiful Bill,” funding for space technology, the ISS, and national science priorities hangs in the balance.
With Elon Musk threatening to pull SpaceX support and China accelerating its space strategy, Matt Ford asks the tough questions: Are we sleepwalking into a new space Cold War? Can America afford to cede the final frontier?
Segment Producer: Ali Travis
Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/TheGoodTroubleShow
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