Subscribe on Patreon and hear this week's full patron-exclusive episode here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/105522184 Beatrice and Phil speak with Melissa Gira Grant about how it came to be that abortion politics are spoken of as the hinge point of the 2024 election—with some pundits confidently predicting the outcome will come down to Biden’s promise to “restore Roe”—and yet at the same time the Democratic Party continues to speak about abortion in only the most hollow and abstract of ways, completely ignoring the reality that for most people the status quo of abortion access was already unacceptable prior to Dobbs. Get Health Communism here: www.versobooks.com/books/4081-health-communism Find Jules' new book here: https://www.versobooks.com/products/3054-a-short-history-of-trans-misogyny Runtime 1:09:59, 3 June 2024