How Hamas Executed a Massacre, and How One Israeli with Nine Bullets Fought Back
Oct 27, 2023
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The podcast explores the questions surrounding the recent attack by Hamas on Israel. Interviews with a special ops-reserved soldier and a prominent journalist provide insights into the attack. Topics discussed include the intense battles and the well-planned nature of the attack, as well as Israel's dilemma in rescuing hostages from Gaza tunnels. The importance of choosing the side that values society and life and the need to eliminate Hamas' military capability are also addressed.
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Hamas executed a shocking attack on Israel, infiltrating a large number of armed individuals and catching the Israeli border surveillance off guard.
Israel's policy of strengthening Hamas led to a significant threat, highlighting the failure to understand the true intentions of Hamas as stated in their charter.
The Israeli government, specifically Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, was criticized for neglecting citizens' safety and prioritizing internal political battles during the war.
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Hamas Attack on Israel
The podcast episode discusses the recent attack by Hamas on Israel, posing three questions: what exactly happened, how did it happen, and what comes next in this war. The episode features interviews with Nimrod, a special ops-reserved soldier who fought against Hamas, Avi Isakharov, a journalist, and Walter Russell Mead, a foreign policy thinker. Nimrod provides a first-hand account of the attack, describing the horrific scenes and the battles he and his team fought to save lives. The episode highlights the importance of having a strong army and the severe consequences when a country is vulnerable.
Israel's Policy towards Hamas
Avi Isakharov explains that Israel's policy of attempting to strengthen Hamas economically in order to maintain stability in Gaza and weaken the Palestinian Authority was a crucial mistake. This policy allowed Hamas to grow in strength and become a significant threat. The episode emphasizes the failure to understand the true intentions of Hamas, as stated in their charter, which calls for the elimination of Israel and the Jewish people. Israel's misjudgment and focus on internal political issues contributed to the current crisis.
Criticism against Israeli Government
The podcast highlights the anger and frustration felt by many Israelis towards the government, particularly towards Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The government is criticized for neglecting its responsibilities during the war, focusing on internal political battles instead of prioritizing the safety and well-being of its citizens. The episode also discusses the challenges of addressing the hostage situation where 222 Israelis are being held captive. The episode highlights the difficult decisions Israel faces and the potential consequences, whether to release Palestinian prisoners or not, as there are no simple solutions to this complex issue.
Hamas' Shocking Invasion of Israel
Hamas managed to conceive Israel in a shocking way by infiltrating between 1,000 and 1,500 people armed with bikes and jeeps. The Israeli border, equipped with high-tech surveillance, failed to detect their entry. The invasion targeted military bases, leaving over 100 soldiers dead and allowing more Hamas terrorists to enter Israeli territory. Ordinary Gazans were also mobilized to participate in looting and carrying out atrocities. The attack was carefully planned and organized, and the scale of the invasion caught Israel off guard.
Challenges in Responding to the Invasion
The Israeli Prime Minister's hesitancy in approving a ground operation, concerns about a wider conflict with Hezbollah, and the lack of a clear exit plan are delaying a full-scale response. There is pressure from the IDF and the Minister of Defense to initiate a ground invasion, but the Prime Minister is reluctant due to the potential loss of soldiers and uncertainty about the aftermath. The complex political dynamics and the fear of escalating tensions complicate Israel's decision-making process. Additionally, the international community's perception of the conflict often falls into anti-Israel bias, wrongly blaming Israel for the humanitarian crisis caused by Hamas using Gazans as human shields.
It’s been almost three weeks since Hamas attacked Israel. And there are three questions that, despite having reported on it so much over the last 20 days, many people are still asking. The first is what exactly happened that day, minute by minute, and what were the battles across the south of Israel like? There are so many accounts of civilians waiting in safe-rooms for hours on end for the IDF to arrive—what happened? The second is how did it happen? How did thousands of terrorists cross a border wall that cost more than a billion dollars to carry out the worst massacre of Jews since the Holocaust? And the third question is what comes next in this already horrific war?
Over the next two episodes of Honestly, we will answer those three questions by talking to three different people. You’ll first hear from Nimrod, a special forces reservist, who fought Hamas at several locations in the south of Israel on the morning of October 7—not because he was called by his unit to go there (he wasn't), but because he knew he needed to go save innocent civilians. His account helps paint a picture of what happened that day in Israel along the Gaza border, from a person who saw it up close and took the brutal fighting into his own hands before the army even arrived.
Then you’ll hear from Avi Issacharoff, a prominent Israeli journalist who’s also one of the creators of the hit TV series Fauda, which is based on his own experience as a member of an elite undercover counterterrorism unit of the IDF. My conversation with Avi helps explain how the most fortified and militarily sophisticated country in the world could have been overtaken in the most horrific way by thousands of Hamas terrorists.
In our next episode, you’ll hear from Walter Russell Mead, who I think of as one of the most prophetic foreign policy thinkers of our time. There’s no better lineup than these three people to help us make sense of what happened, how it happened, and where Israel, and the world, go from here. You’ll want to listen.