The Inside Story Podcast What are Trump's real intentions with Venezuela?
Nov 30, 2025
Mark Pfeifle, a Republican strategist and former White House national security official, joins forces with Paul Dobson, an independent journalist from Venezuela, and Christopher Sabatini, a senior research fellow at Chatham House. They dive into Trump's potential intentions in Venezuela, suggesting a mix of regime change desires and economic motivations. The group debates the risks of military intervention, Venezuela's resource wealth, and the historical skepticism of U.S. actions from Venezuelans. They unravel the implications of Trump’s assertive foreign policy and its impact on both nations.
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Regime Change Over Drug War
- Christopher Sabatini argues the US moves aim at regime change, not primarily drug interdiction.
- He says only 5–10% of US cocaine transits via Venezuela and the country isn't a major producer.
Dual Motives: Drugs And Pressure
- Mark Pfeifle accepts both drug-fighting and pressure on Maduro are at play simultaneously.
- He links US moves to forcing Maduro to cut ties with Iran and Russia or be removed.
Resources, Not Just Oil
- Paul Dobson emphasizes economic aims, especially access to minerals and industry beyond oil.
- He suggests Washington seeks Venezuela's resources amid broader rivalry with China and Russia.