Today’s episode is sponsored by Origin Dollar: With U.S. inflation still at 5% and multiple CeFi lending platforms bankrupt, DeFi protocols that earn interest on stablecoins are once again back on crypto investors' minds. See for more details: http://realvision.com/origindollar  

Ash Bennington is joined by Justin Guilder, co-founder, chief legal officer, and COO of the digital assets advisory firm Lumida. As a lawyer representing banks in regulatory disputes and the former CEO of a fintech trust company with direct access to the Federal Reserve, Justin understands the intersection of TradFi and DeFi better than anyone.

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