In this brain-bending ep we explore this wild idea: are there good brains and can we find a way to use them to save the planet. My guest is Professor George Paxinos AO, the world’s leading brain expert.

The 78-year-old Greek-Australian is the most famous scientist you’ve never heard of – he’s identified and named more parts of the brain than anyone in history. He’s also a climate activist (and cycling activist!) and spent 21 years writing his latest book, River Divided, a novel about (ready for it) a female scientist who clones Jesus. The resulting twin boys go on to wrestle the climate crisis via the moral compass of The Son of God. So wild!

You can order River Divided and read a free chapter here.

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PROF GEORGE PAXINOS: Are our brains "good" enough to save the planet?